PS Stars, or PlayStation Stars, is a free loyalty program for PS5 and PS4 which enables you to earn PS Store credit, free games, and Digital Collectibles. If you're a PS Plus subscriber, then you'll earn additional Points based on each PS Store purchase you make.
In this PS Stars guide, we're going to explain all Campaigns and solutions, detail all Digital Collectibles and how to get them, and all Rewards and how to get them. Please note that, while our best efforts have been made to ensure this page is always accurate, PS Stars is an evolving program so some details may be subject to change. Additionally, there may be regional differences depending on where you live.
PS Stars Guide: All Campaigns and Solutions
In this part of our PS Stars guide, we're going to introduce all Campaigns and solutions. Campaigns are time-limited objectives that can be completed in return for rewards, often Points or Digital Collectibles. Tasks may take on a variety of different roles, including playing a specific game, using a particular feature, or even participating in a tournament.
Below we've included a list of all Campaigns and solutions currently available in PS Stars. Where applicable, you can click on the name of a particular campaign for more information on how to solve it:
|Your PS Plus Monthly Games Benefit Is Here||
Play one of these games to get points:
|Plus Game Catalogue: Must-Play This Month||
A fresh batch of titles are delivered to the PlayStation Plus Game Catalogue every month. Check out what's new! While you're there, play any of these games:
|Share the Fun||Start the new year with a blast by playing one of these fun multiplayer games:
|Answer the Call in Destiny 2: Lightfall||Hold the line, Guardian. Soldiers of the Shadow Legion are advancing, and we need you to join the fight and stop them in their tracks. Pre-order either edition of Destiny 2: Lightfall from the PS Store to get your points.||
|Game Catalogue: Must Play This Month (Can You Feel the Love?)||Explore several kinds of love depicted in these iconic games. Can you decipher our clues and figure out which games we're referring to? Hint: they're all available on PS Plus. Star all four games to get your points.||
||28th February, 2023|
|Fight of the Month Club||The first rule of the Fight of the Month Club is win. The second rule is to hydrate. Now go and drink some water and win:
|A League of Your Own||Get kitted up and listen to that crowd — they're all here for you. Compete in any of these popular sports titles and hoist your collectible high. You've earned it.
|Your PS Plus Monthly Games Await||Check out this stellar PS Plus monthly game for February. Play this game to get your points.
|February PS5 Store Picks||Check out this month's selection of PS5 games we think you'll love. Buy any game on the list for a points boost.
|February Check-In||Good fortune for you, friend. Light a lantern and play some games to celebrate Lantern Festival this month!||
|PlayStation and You: Sony Glasstron PLM-A35||Ready to put on a headset and peer into the virtual future? No, not with PSVR2 — we're talking about the Sony Glasstron PLM-A35, the futuristic head-mounted display from 1997!
PS Stars Guide: Digital Collectibles
For the next part of our PS Stars guide, we're going to focus on Digital Collectibles. Digital Collectibles, for the most part, are 3D renders of iconic PlayStation characters, products, or memorabilia. These cannot be traded or sold, and should not be confused with NFTs, or non-fungible tokens. In order to earn digital collectibles, you'll either need to exchange Points for them or complete specific Campaigns.
PS Stars Guide: Rewards
For this section of our PS Stars guide, we're going to focus on Rewards. As you continue to interact with Sony's loyalty scheme, you'll amass Points which can be exchanged for rewards. These rewards include PS Store credit, free games, and Digital Collectibles. You can earn Points by completing Campaigns and by purchasing games from the PS Store when you're a PS Plus member
PS Stars Guide: FAQs
For the final section of our PS Stars guide, we'll be answering any lingering questions you have about Sony's loyalty scheme. This includes topics such as how to join, how much it costs, and how to get Points.
That concludes our PS Stars guide for now, but we're committed to keeping this page up-to-date with all of the latest information on Sony's loyalty scheme. Feel free to check back regularly for updates on campaigns, digital collectibles, and rewards. And if you'd like to know anything else about the program, let us know in the comments section below.
well if your into showing look what achievement i got this will be up your street, achievements????? na im not fussed i play games for the story content achievements not interested at all. looks Photoshopped the whole thing s telescope and t-rex i think this will go by the way side in 6 months.
why do they have a loyalty program when they aren’t loyal to their customers ..
oh that’s right , baby $ony late to the party from what M$ does better , oh jimbo . 😂😒
So does streaming not work? I streamed mk11 and it didn't unlock
I still can't believe Nintendo have a better reward system, they give more currency points per purchase and now offer new avatars every week as well using coins earned from playing games or uploading save data etc. Whilst Sony have got rid of avatars altogether
Come on sony, you can do better than this.
@UltimateOtaku91 Do they? For a 60€ Game I get 0,60€ in Points on Switch. That 1% you get back and only for 1 year after the Game came out
@IonMagi it's 5% for digital purchases and 1% for physical purchases. I recently bought fire emblem warriors three hopes and got £3 in points back.
PlayStation are offering 1% back on digital purchases and nothing on physical.
@UltimateOtaku91 like Microsoft don't ? U can get a achivement in any game a day and still get points ...hell u don't even have to get achievements, u can just do daily searches and /or answer questions like which 5 of these ppl are astronauts and still get money
@Martsmall I know Microsoft do, but I used nintnedo in my comment as they are the one who are behind in everything, in terms of subscription, online, hardware, digital store sales etc and people always call them out on it, yet they have a better reward system than playstation lol
@Martsmall you get points on xbox just for turning it on once a day lol
@UltimateOtaku91 I've not tried Nintendo's but looking at Sonys rewards I'm not impressed, $5 for every $125 spent wow
@get2sammyb for the campaigns where you have multiple choices and only need to boot one/some, can you add the game sizes so people know which is the smallest one to download, boot, and delete?
Why is this labeled as a "scheme" in several articles.
Isn't it a free program?...If so, what is the scheme?
Is there anything Sony does that doesn't get the usual moaners out of their caves?
Is it being added to the actual console menu at some point? I rarely use the app.
@uptownsoul scheme is same as program in English, just has multiple meaning/uses
@SplooshDmg yeah I got the double gold coins for buying splatoon as well, I think I bought 3 games over the last two months and have £12 in coins which I'm going to put towards the xenoblade chronicles 3 season pass.
Another thing I like with nintendo is the game vouchers for 2 games for £84, something like that on playstation would be great, make the £70 games seem less of a problem and probably bring more digital sales overall.
@AdamNovice Would be nice to get some points if i buy a physical release i dont buy digital so the points wont be added to my account.
Better not call it a loyalty thing but at the our store and you get something. A company like Bandai Namco adds codes which you can trade in thats a lot nicer then this.
And loyalty i only have had Playstation consoles and i always bought my games even imported the games and payed for them in the legal way on every console.
@SplooshDmg there's vouchers on the switch eshop, all you need is to be a NSO member.
I just don't understand why this was implemented. It'll take ages to get enough points to get a free game. May as well just wait for the Plus offerings. And yeah... I have the digital TRex and PS3 "collectibles". I just don't get it.
@SplooshDmg ah I see, must just be an European thing then 😕
Its been available since the launch of NSO in the UK.
@Uncharted2007 Well maybe the whole thing isn't about getting free games quickly. Personally I'm more interested in the digital collectibles, because it's something more unique then just an avatar or a wallpaper that other services do.
@uptownsoul They got me to download the app, sign up for the program.. and gave me a challenge to buy a game from a selection of some pretty poor choices.. like.. Last of Us, the third release of a fairly modern game almost everyone played that they're charging $60 for.. a couple yearly sports titles, Saints Rows which has gotten negative reviews everywhere.. a collection of old ninja turtles games that you probably either bought on release or are waiting for a sale due to the price.. (I'm the latter, the reward your getting is no where near worth the money you'll save) ..it does kind of come across as a scheme.. I guess if you'll get a reward if you keep it up for one thousand months.
Does anyone know how to get the PS3 collectible??
@Orcish did you download the app or signup for the program against your will?...or did they charge you to be part of the program?...or did they attach hidden fees?
It's not a scheme just because you don't think the program is worth it to you.
@uptownsoul Time is money friend.
how much does 50 points equate to in money?
I dont care about digital tat its worthless
Sounds from what people have been getting for purchases like for pre-order of GOW for $74.20 they get 742 points so 0.10 per dollar spent. So you have to spend $1750 to get enough points to buy newer games like the query which require 17500 points.
@Orcish and nobody's forcing, or tricking you into spending your time or money.
This is a joke, compared to MS reward points it looks like absolute tosh. I don't have an xbox but I still earn about 10 quid a month on their system (which I use for cloud gaming on PC) by simply using bing instead of google and clicking a few links each day, if you want you can even redeem MS points for amazon gift cards! Sorry sony keep your digital tat and measly 'stars' it's not even worth the effort
You get the equivalent of 4% back on Sony’s system, which is pitiful given the relative cost of digital games to physical (which aren’t rewarded).
How is MK11 or Tekken honoring "hadouken"? These "rewards" Nintendon't make any sense
@AdamNovice its getting pretty pathetic now isn't it? This site stoked it, now we all have to live with it...
Not that this article isn't a good one, I appreciate the work that went into it to help people enjoy a new program, even if the comments are the usual cess pool of muck slingers..
I got a challenge that isn't included in the guide. It's called "PS VR BRB" and it awards 50 points for playing any one of six specific PSVR games. (Astrobot Rescue Mission, Walking Dead Saints & Sinners, Wipeout Omega Collection, RE7, Until You Fall, and The Persistence) Completed it by playing Astrobot.
I haven't seen anyone else mention this challenge online.
If you copy Sammy in on this info, he will likley add it after checking
Thanks for letting us all know!
Thanks! Just realized I have a second challenge that isn't listed above.
It's called "PlayStation and You: PS3." The challenge is to "Play any game on PS4 or PS5. Doesn't have to be vintage!" The reward is a PS3 console Heroic collectible. I'm a US user, so maybe that makes a difference.
@Barrel_Roll Thanks for this!
@AldusRavencorn That's what im wishing. let me see it on the actual playstation instead of the app.
@Barrel_Roll I have the "PlayStation and You: PS3" campaign as well. My friend doesn't have the campaign though, and we're both in Canada. Neither of us have the "PS VR BRB" challenge. So seems like there are campaigns that aren't rolled out to everyone.
Do I have to play a particular mode in SFV to unlock the Novelty Toy Fight Trophy?
Also noticed that the "October Check-in" didn't register for me even though I've already played some games yesterday and today.
Maybe the challenge campaigns are somehow tied to your play history or trophies. A friend of mine (also in the US) doesn't have the "PS VR BRB" challenge, but he doesn't have the VR headset, whereas I do.
Maybe the PS3 challenge is for people who have a lot of PS3 trophies. Just spitballing here.
@Barrel_Roll @get2sammyb Who knows? We may never know. We all know about Sony's communication skills, or lack thereof.
There is a twenty dollar gift card in the reward program that can be purchased for 5000 points.
@trev666 So fifty points is equal to twenty cents. That is laughable when you see the list of games eligible for the reward. Except for Inscryption, most are sixty dollar games on the PS4 and seventy on the PS5.
A seventy dollar purhase gets you twenty cents of credit.
I bought TLOU P1 just before the Stars program, so now I can’t get the bonus points….
@uptownsoul ? Define scheme.
@Stevemalkpus thanks for working that out for me not got stars here in uk yet and by the sounds of it unless you want some digital tat the monetary rewards are negligible at best
@Netbean totally agree I would recommend Microsoft rewards to everyone you dont even have to have an xbox to get points.
@Orcish you were the one (in comment #26) who said: "it does kind of come across as a scheme"...
My reply is that they're not forcing you or tricking you on anything...Everything is upfront.
You just don't think it's worth it, which is 100% fine. But something not being worth it, doesn't make it a scheme
All those game I paid for...now I can't get the points because I already bought them.
Man all you people do is complain, be grateful they even offered this. If you don't like it play a different gen console. Touch grass
I spent 200 pound today I'm in the uk, will it count? Totally forgot about this eeurgh
@uptownsoul Okay, when I said define scheme.. I was kind of expecting to actually look up the definition. I think you're mixing up scheme with scam.
@Kramzie I have every console and a good gaming PC.. like.. I honestly don't really care all that much, this is a marketing scheme, it should get better, right now they're misstepping. It's not something worth insulting people over.
@Orcish , welcome to the industry all companies do it. It is also not a "marketing scheme". You are not required to buy them it's pure cosmetic besides the rewards system. I own all gen consoles including PC with over 850+ games on Steam. You obviously are bothered by it in some way since you are mass responding to people. Just play games and move on it's not a big deal. Also telling people to touch grass is not insulting, just indicating. Have a good day lol.
you only seem to get points if you spend money
Anybody else has the 50 points purchase bonus marked as expired? I'd like to buy inscryption but I don't know whether I'll get the points or not.
"Please be patient as we accept new members on a rolling basis. Youll be notified by email when your off the waiting list in up to two months. Note that your place in the waiting list will be the same even if you cancel and sign up again"
mind you ive no interest in digital tat and I buy physical games so i probably wouldn't get anything out of it anyway
@Orcish well, you're the one who said (in comment #26)...
...and I quote: "it does kind of come across as a scheme."
So instead of asking me what a definition is, maybe you could just explain what you mean by the quoted part of your comment #26
But forget all that: let's add a stingy rewards scheme that is far inferior to those of Microsoft, Nintendo or even Steam.
@uptownsoul a scheme is a large scale plan to attain something or put something into effect. @Orcish is 100% correct that this rewards program is a marketing scheme to get people to engage more with PlayStation by buying games from the store and playing specifically curated games. If you play more you're ultimately more likely to spend more. Sony has said before that they want to boost player engagement back to peak covid levels.
So any word on whether anything majorly changes at different levels? 2/3/4?
@Milktastrophe by your definition, every single product (or service)...from every single for-profit corporation...is a scheme.
And again, this part of Orcish's comment #26 [ "it does kind of come across as a scheme.." ]...doesnt lineup with the definition you've given.
I've seen this for what it is, now. It's an attempt to get you to overpay for digital games from their store.
I own TLOU:P1 on disc. Why shouldn't I get the points for having bought it?
@UltimateOtaku91 I won't buy anything digital if I can help it. You don't really own anything like that and if they shut it down you lose access to those games. I learned with myspace and yahoo back a long time ago. Lost a bunch of pictures that were digital and music and movies I bought. Then Amazon, Vudu, and Sony shut down some on my libraries when streaming started taking over. And in the time that I stopped doing digital I always hear of something shutting down or copyright laws keep it from being used.
I like the idea of the collectables.... But does anybody know what to do with them please?
@fridida yes you can flex and digitally clean them,that's about it
@naarmi Then my collections are going to be sparkling and flexed to the maximum! 😂
Thank you. 👍🏻
It's just an extra added benefit. Cool to some stupid to others. But some are acting like Sony owe them money in return for purchases. They don't. So entitled.
I didn't even need to play a game, they just gave me the cinnasnail. I wonder if it's because I sent a complaint in the app about no notice for the banana campaign.
I see I now have a day to get a cinnamon bun by playing a game. Cool. Keeps people logging in I guess. But really hoping for some more imaginative and challenging tasks (that don’t involve buying specific games).
Wow. All I see are people moaning. Its a free thing to sign up for.
Are they late to the party? Yes
Did they all do trashy point making at the beginning? Yes
Are they all a bit useless? Yes.
Why is it everyone wants everything for free.
If you want to sign up, sign up. If you don't. Don't.
Or why don't people just sign up and play like normal and in the end you may get a free game out of it, which you wouldn't have if you don't anyway.
Its not like it effects anyone.
@J-smash it's a bit of a proverbial kick in the teeth if you ask me. Like, seriously, we bought your premium priced remake at launch but can't be grandfathered in here? Like those 50 points, absolutely worthless on their own, are gonna break Sony or something.
The banana boomerang collectable idnt unlock for me when i defintely played a ps5 an ps4 game within the time limit and now the snail wont unlock even though i launched games yesterday i dont understand
I've already lost interest in this.
Hello..I’m in the US (Pacific Zone Time) and I’ve gotten all the digital collectibles thus far, but I don’t have the PlayStation and You: PSVR digital collectible available to me right now. I’m level 2 on the PS stars, and I’m wondering how do I get it? When I watched the video for the PS stars when it first rolled out, I saw a PS3 digital collectible and a walkie talkie looking thing, but I don’t have those either and I read all the comments in this post, and some people “supposedly” have them. Am I not in a region where the Digital Collectibles are not available to me, or do I have to level up in the PS stars? Thank you
@xrayzak47 you mean the PS and You campaign doesn’t even show up in the app for you? I’m also I. The US (EST) and I got it the day it was put up. As for the Walkman and PS3 collectible, I haven’t seen them so I think they’ll show up later. Unless you mean the one where you have to play certain games in order. I think some things are region specific also like the banana one because I never saw it in the app.
I missed the cinnasnail one. It’d be nice if they would push notifications to your phone letting you know when new campaigns appear. I don’t feel like checking the app every day for new campaigns.
@CrispyMango92 no it doesn’t. Do you have a VR headset?
@xrayzak47 I don’t. I just played a regular game and was able to get it.
@CrispyMango92 wow ok. Thank you 👍🏻🤘🏻
Getting 75 points just for using remote play a few times? Will knock that out on the toilet lol
@xrayzak47 not everyone gets the same campaigns. Some people even have different requirements for them. I'm afraid it simply won't be possible to get every collectible.
I must admit, forgot this even existed until now. Got the first couple of bits then just forgot it.
Why can't I see "You Did It! You Defeated Phrike" in US app yet?? I can see the "Play Wherever" and I have one called "November Check-In" that isn't even on the list above for November. its an "autumn themed Tech Demo Tyrannosaurus Rex" to go along with last months.
@commanderclif have you beaten Phrike in Returnal? You can try to do it now, but no guarantee the campaign will show up.
Got a message on my ps4 from Sony weeks ago saying they were going to add a campaign for pre ordering modern warfare 2 or God of War Ragnarok & never happened lol
@thefourfoldroot1 the remote play one won't register for me
I pre-ordered Call of Duty, where are my rewards?
@Bez87 We moan because we are the customers, and when the customer is not happy this means you do not run your business well. If you focus on nonsense like this instead to provide better quality games then that's just desperation. And lastly, why we can't say what we think about it, do we don't have a right of option?
Strange, it did for me. In fact, despite what others have experienced, at worst my campaigns registered when they were supposed to. A few before. With this one I got the first part register when I first connected and the final part as soon as I connected for the last time, so I don’t think the 5 minute stipulation is actually necessary, but I kept them all logged in for 6 minutes anyway just to be safe.
For reference, I was connecting to a PS5 using the app on iPhone, and I’m in the U.K.
@Would_you_kindly yeah I tried it for a good ten minutes several times yesterday and nothing registered. It's whatever, I kinda only care about the points but not so much I wanna commit hours trying to figure out how to get this to register.
Also annoyed that I just recently started Returnal to try it out and defeated Phrike like literally 2 days ago but that campaign isn't available to me so I guess certain campaigns will forever be unavailable should you do something after the campaign exists. And, well, that's kinda dumb.
For the Remote Play campaign make sure the “Data you provide” (under Users and Accounts/Privacy), is set to Full, and not just limited.
And put ur console in rest mode, then use Remote Play to start up your console and use it for 5 min. That made it register for me and a few others. Hope it works for you aswell!
@WizzNL registered when I got a ps5 wouldn't when I used it on my ps4 though
PlayStation and You: PSVR + playstation eye doesn't work.
Also you can't complete fighting month games with streaming mortal Kombat 11, it doesn't register that game unless you actually play PS5 version.
God of war preorder is a scam, I didn't get any figurine and I see people getting thousands of points yet I got nothing for it. Scam.
I got 2,000 points for pre-ordering Ragnarok. One that was like 790 and one that was 1,220
Has the remote play campaign disappeared for anyone else? I did the first remote play requirement at the beginning of the month with no problem, but now I can't see in the app.
@WCB That campaign finished awhile ago. Never got 1 remote play to work for me. Very weird.
@WCB that happened to me as well
@KaijuKaiser what? I got nothing for the preorder, just de 800 of the game
Annoying I get no recognition for pre ordering / purchasing PSVR2. Unless this will get added later once the money is taken.
@Nekomichu I think it was a mistake on their end. Some people got it and never even preordered the game. I cashed it in quickly
@KaijuKaiser oh I see, thanks for the explanation. Never got the ps stars collectible either :/
@SoulChimera oh, I thought it was a longer timed thing. I could have done it that first day then lol
I’m still waiting to get my 50 points for Call of Duty! Guessing it will track at the end of the month
@KaijuKaiser check you out! I preordered Ragnarok and only got the 700 points with purchase.
Still no GOW preorder collectible. "The share the fun " isn't even showing up...
I'm against the PS Store Picks one. I purchased one of the games on the list a week prior and never got the reward of 50 points. It only gives you the reward if you purchase the game in that timeframe. Makes me now hesitate on buying anything from now on until I check this.
'November Check In: Play your favourite game on PS4 or PS5!'
Does anyone know how to find out what your 'favourite game' is according to PlayStation?
@Digit2021 Likewise. In fact, it would one huge improvement if the requirement was "Playing the game" to get the rewards. Not only implies you bought the game (or you got it from a PS Plus tier, which is not free either). Even a small reward would be preferable to paying full-price for a game just because of a limited time period.
@AK4tywill , I assume you just need to play any of your own game at least once.
Why is there a Genshin Primogem going around the PlayStation logo?
Of course like everyone else I pretty much got my free PS5 version of Witcher 3 as soon as it was available. However now I would have got 5 valuable points if I'd waited until Jan, and there appears to be no way to get them retroactively. Bummer!
@trev666 you get 10 points for every dollar spent i now have 977 points. so for 50 points its 5 bucks
@Stevemalkpus uh your sorely misinformed. you get 10 points for every dollar spent. not what you said. ive been keeping track i now have 977 points myself.
@SerJosh97 er that doesnt seem right i asked how much is 50 points worth not how much you have to spend to earn it.
50 points is worth 20p
so you have to spend £125 to make 1250 points for £5 credit
god your dense. i answered your question if you even bothered to read my answer i told you 50 points is 5 dollars. that's what its worth and how much you have to spend to earn it. learn to read. i hate talking to stupid ppl god its infuriating being the smart one of everyone ik.
@SerJosh97 Don't forget being the most modest too!
I don't mind it, except for the Purchase a game reward ones. Tonight I will just load Sackboy and Demons Souls to get the points, thus giving me my 7,500 points which is a nice $30 PS wallet. Every little bit of savings help in these financial times. Not going to play the games since already finished them, but it's enough to quickly just load a savegame and then instantly close to get the reward.
I just got the Shardbearer challenge today from Elden Ring. It says there is 32 days left to complete it. Anyone else received this challenge?
@get2sammyb Answers for the Must Play campaign for Feb:
Celeste, Life is strange, Yakuza 6, Spiritfarer
For Life is Strange you ll need to use the free episode 1 only, complete edition doesnt work so uncheck episode 2-5 while downloading if you got the whole game.
@WizzNL I don't have access to this campaign at the moment, but thanks for the intel.
@get2sammyb Prolly still needs to update for you then, but at least you got the answers in advance. It rewards 50 points again.
Theres also 1 for Sifu. Play any PS4-PS5 game, after beating the Botanist boss. Just a collectible for this 1 though.
So i bought dead Space three days ago or something and now it is part of points?
@Ashkorsair They do this literally every month. Bought god of war on release in November and they put the points for it in December. It’s a pattern they do. Put the big game from the previous month as a campaign the next month. Guess it’s to try and convince those who don’t buy day one to get it sooner rather than later? But for 50 points, it’s not really a big deal. This program is cool to have but the part where you get money back is embarrassing. Got an Xbox back in November and they give you points like crazy. In these last 2.5 months, I’ve racked up enough Points to pay for game pass for the next 4 months. That’s $60 right there. Been using PS Stars since release and I’ve got just a bit over 2000 points which is just shy of $10. Sony is stingy for sure
Currently missing the 'Feel The Love' campaign for February, which, by the by, seems to have the tracker for one of the games glitched. I can boot up Life is Strange all I want but it won't register.
Prime Rib won't pop for me.
Anyone else having issues with that? Do you just have to launch the game or do you need to win a match?
@Golem25 so you want to download the life is strange episode 1 only. Don’t download the Life is Strange with a + next to it
The Beyond Light one is expired for me… WTF!?
The most irrelevant system sony has implemented to date. It's like it's not even there.
@AdamNovice It's almost like we want sony to do better than worse unlike some people.
@RedRiot193 Yeah like Sony will listen to bunch of comments on a random site. Also get with the times my comment was last year.
@AdamNovice The comments isn't the point as that flew over your head. The comments show what people are feeling about certain things and shows what has happened. This program is nothing but a flop and has under performed severely.
Your comment is only 4 months old lol you act like it was actually a year.
@LazyLombax Thank you, bit bizarre that one but hey ho, it is what it is.
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